Thursday, September 22, 2005

Drunken Monk

I'm coming home a little late one night and at the top of the road the van has to stop because people are putting up Buddhist flags for some ceremony or the other at the temple. Well, at least they're being a little considerate and waiting till the traffic drops to do these things.

What really bugs me is the fact that all the people putting up the flags are drunk. These guys could hardly walk straight.

These were the kind of guys I would not want to mess with. If they want my vehicle to stop so they can put some flags up, I stop. If they want my vehicle to stop so they can pee on the road, I stop. You know the type I'm talking about.

But, why is that it's the same bunch of people in the town who get contacted for all the little odd jobs?

When a politician wants some posters put up it's these guys who're called. They're given a hundred rupees and one meal per person and a bottle of arrack to share. They do their job. It's also the same guys who do the politician's dirty work in terms of pulling down banners and hoardings of rival party people.

In times of elections, when extra muscle is needed then these guys are even used to intimidate people on polling day or do whatever it is that the local politician wants done. Again, they get a hundred rupees, one meal and a bottle of arrack. Sometime they even settle for a bottle of Kasippu (moonshine).

It's the same bunch of guys that the monk in the local temple calls when he wants some flags put up. Doesn't anyone find this objectionable? That the so-called Buddhist monks in our temples also obtain the services of the same thugs and lowlifes that the politicians use for their dirty work? These guys are most certainly not putting up flags out of love for the religion or for the temple. They're doing it because they're getting paid. The monk doesn't pay them with a sermon.

I wonder if the monk gives them a bottle too? I think the guy in our temple might because I have seen him walking about town drunk in the night. One of the biggest jokes in the small town outside Colombo where I live is that the head monk in the temple can drink more than anyone else in the area. But he doesn't look like the drunken monks in the Chinese martial arts movies :) But that is not the story here.

Actualy there's no story. Just a gut feeling that drunk people putting up Buddhist flags is wrong. Maybe I'm the one who's wrong.

What do we do when the lines between our politicians and our clergy begin to vanish?

Comments:
 
Your point Morquendi?

Plenty of Catholic/Christian priests drink alcohol out of habit. Infact part of Church ritual involves drinking alcohol as a substitute for Christ's blood. Lutherans and Anglicans have always used wine for Holy Communion.

So enough with the Buddhist bashing please.
 
Well Yaaro, in case you're wondering, all you need to become a Hindu priest in Sri Lanka is to go half naked all day, be of a certain caste and mutter prayers around a big huge stone lingam (dick) and yoni (vagina) day in and day out while rubbing oil on the heads of all the devotees. Add to that hanging on hooks and rolling on the ground, walking on fire and priecing your tongue with spikes, pins, needles and all sorts of sharp objects. Oh and perhaps sleep with a few temple prostitutes as well and store arms and ammunition for the LTTE and provide bedding and bunking for LTTE cadres on suicide missions.

Do you think there is any spirituality there?
 
Good one mate.
 
Proverb,

I have nothing against anyone drinking alcohol. Heck I used to be one :) I'm not bashing Buddhists. I'm just wondering what it means when monks begin hiring thugs to do their work.

If you want a good example of someone bashing something, then read what astrocyte has written. He clearly needs to see a shrink. The way with he insults the oldest faith in the world is unacceptable. But it comes out of the ignorance and the intolerance that has been displayed all over Sri Lanka by him and his Sinhala nationalist/racist brethren.

Dextr on the other hand is a typical case of the Sri Lankan who left the country because they sought greener pastures, and now seek to reclaim their Sri Lankan-ness by spewing shit online. Having run like a coward when the going got tough over here, they now regret it. But at the same time they don't want to leave the luxuries available to them in London/Toronto/Melbourn/Wherever and come back to do their shouting here. There are many like him who scream for war while sitting thousand and thousands of miles away in front of their PCs, safe from everything a return to war would bring to Sri Lanka.

If they had any sense they would realise that now that they have run like the cowards they would are, they should shut up and leave the rest of us alone. But they choose to proudly display their ignorance like our buddy Dextr.
 
Dextr,

If you want to know why Hinduism incorporates the worship of the Lingam and the Yoni then I suggest you do a Google search fot it. You seem to be good at Googling a lot of other things so spend your time online doing something productive, like learning about another religion instead of asking inane questions on a blog.

Education and awareness lead to understanding, and if all the ignorant people like you learnt a little more about other people and cultures then maybe you would understand them a lot better and there would be a lot less xenophobia in the world. (In case that word is new to you I suggest you Google that too.)

Our buddy astrocyte clearly has no understanding of Hinduism and is happy making rash derogatory statements about it simply because he wishes to insult it.

Now, if an outsider were to look at the Buddhist clergy in Sri Lanka they would say something like: "They're all funny lookin' bald chaps in orange robes who sexually abuse the little boys who join the priesthood and also spend their time trying to screw all the females who come to the temple to offer prayer. They also sit on their asses all day and do nothing except getting the random blowjob from whichever little monk happens to be around that that time. They are more often than not gluttons, and don't have the faintest idea about Buddhism. Most of them also have their own favourite local prostitute for when they get tired of screwing the little boys. They also have running accounts with the local liquor store."

But we would know that to be a wrong picture. Not all the monks are like that. There are a handful of decent monks around. This is exactly what astrocyte is doing. He is spewing a lot of shit about something he does not know or understand.

Unfortunately there are too many people like you and astrocyte out there, who don't take any time or make the effort to learn about anything, but trash it anyway, as if you were gurus on the subject. If the Government of Sri Lanka spent some more money and developed a Educate Xenophobic Morons Plan to deal with people like you and astrocyte then perhaps we would have a lasting solution to the problems in Sri Lanka.

Yaaro can answer that question if she so chooses.

To the best of my knowledge the worship of the Yoni and the Lingam have to do with the worship of fertility. This is something that is stronger in Hinduism than in other religions because Hinduism is older than other religions and is more directly derived from the Mother Goddess worship which dates back to the stone ages. Fertility has always been worshipped by all cultures and peoples. It is fertility that you celebrate each april if you're celebrating New Year in Sri Lanka. Thanksgiving is a fertility celebration. Each and every culture on our planet has a fertility celebration tied in with our harvest times. It's one of the core ways in which all religions and cultures are alike.

That is what little I know, and since I am not an authority on these matters I suggest you do some further reading.

Please, no more inane questions. Google's out there for a reason. Generally Google is for smart people who know that they don't know everything, but even morons can make use of it sometimes. Have fun :)
 
Dextr, your inability to respond with the a logical countr-argument is an indication of your immaturity and ignorance. Normally I would stop this debate at this point because I don't think anything can be achieved by arguing with someone slightly more evolved than a chimp. But in your case I think I will make a slight exception and give you one more opportunity to resond like an adult, which I am assuming you are, at least by age, if not by mental state.

By 'the rest of us' I mean all those of us who chose to stay on in Sri Lanka even when the going got tough. I have more respect for Wimal Weerawanse than for you because at least the man stays in this country. I would actually have a lot more respect for Wimal Weerawanse if he went and joined the army, but he won't. Somawanse Amarasinghe on the other hand will leave if he ever feels a bit of heat.

To answr your second question on thugs, it does not take much to know the neighborhood thug, if you know the neighbourhood. I'm assuming you were brought up in a rather protective home in Colombo 7 and are therefore not very streetsmart. I wouldn't really expect you to understand what I'm talking about.

So your uncle who was in the army died? Well my deepest sympathies to you and the rest of your family. You know first hand what war can do therefore you should be among the first to ask for peace. Instead, blinded by hate and immature feelings of vengence you seek more war to kill those who killed your uncle and thereby further strengthening the cycle of violence.

Just to clarify, your uncle was not 'murdered', he probably died on duty. The military engages in the business of death. Giving it and taking it. Everyone in the military knows that they might die. Your uncle knew that, so when it came I bet he was not the least bit surprised. At least he had the balls to join the army and do something without just spewing rhetoric online. Pity he has a nephew such as you. I don't think he would have been very proud of you. Sorry. Bitter pill to take down, but that's the truth.

And the almost bombed your school? How could they? How terrible is that? Which school is this? Ladies College? Guess so.

Anyways, the Sri Lanka Army and Airforce have destroyed hundreds of schools in the North and East. They still continue to occupy many schools and deprive children of an education. This is one of the most basic rights of humans. So please forgive me if I don't cry when you tell me your sob story about how the LTTE almost bombed your school.

I suggest you seek post trauma counselling.

Self mutilation as an act of devotion is not practiced only by the Hindus. I'd have thought you'd at least have read Dan Brown's 'Da Vinci Code'. Guess I was wrong. When's the last time you touched a book anyway? 1st grade?

Moving on, again I suggest you Google for information on self-mutilation. You will find it widely practicsed in Christianity and Islam.

As for Sinhalese not being welcome in Jaffna, well, I suggest you go live in Jaffna and find that out for yourself. Have you ever been to Jaffna. I bet not. Why not? Afraid they're going to shoot you? Wanna know a secret? They don't give a flying fuck if you're Sinhalese or Martian. But all those Athuruliye Rathna and Champika Ranawaka speeches that you listen to don't tell you that do they? That is because none of them have ever been to Jaffna either. Please don't parrot out what you hear in public speeches made by these racists, unless of course you're immature enough to believe them to be the sole authority on these matters. A person with any sense of judgement always seeks to clarify these things for themself before making statements like yours.

As for Sinhalese not being able to 'own' land in Jaffna, that has nothing to do with race but with the Tamil system of property exchange which is based on ancient out-dated principles. Why it is still practiced today is an enigma. Even most Tamils, particularly lower caste Tamils are not able to purchase land in Jaffna.

I suggest you come on down to Sri Lanka and go to Jaffna before you make such statements.
 
And if you really think the Buddha's remains, which are suposed to be about 2500 years old now, are still around then you REALLY need a reality check.

Dude Dextr, willing suspension of disbelief is for when you're watching Disney. Not for life in general.
 
thanks for the support . another saying we have down under Mr Dexter your arse is mine.
 
Oh god I find it hilarious how this utter fuckwit Morquendi preaches to others.

He screams: "Our buddy astrocyte clearly has no understanding of Hinduism and is happy making rash derogatory statements about it simply because he wishes to insult it." But oh, Morquendi is quite happy putting shit on Buddhists, Buddhists and Buddhist monks whenever and however he pleases. Isn't this the same guy who said that he wants to piss on the Buddha's tooth? Apparently what I say is "unacceptable" but his complete and utter religious bigotry towards Buddhists and Buddhism is "acceptable."

And now this moron is worried about "rash derogatory statements"?

LOL! Some people never cease to amaze me.

Dear Morquendi, keep your anti-Buddhist hate mongering to yourself and then maybe you won't have to listen to others putting shit on what you hold sacred. Capiche? If not, be prepared to take the same shit you dish out. Don't start screaming like a little whiner when you get a taste of your own medicine because that just reveals what a two faced little mongrel you are (don't worry this has already been well established a long time ago). You think you're right and everybody else is wrong? Got news for you dipshit, it doesn't work like that.

Now why don't you go and shove a nice little lingam into your mouth Morquendi and suck hard? Is Sanjay Senanayake your real name? Maybe then you could go around and suck the dicks of al those butt ugly half naked, uncivilised Hindu priests who simply love fondling the genitals of little boys and girls who happen to come to the temple. I'm sure they spend all their time rubbing their asses up and down on those huge stone dicks and licking all around those yonis whenever they feel like it. And when they feel hungry they butcher and torture a goat to death right in the temple premises and savour the delicious flesh while they mutter prayers to an elephant headed god, a monkey god who runs around with a burning tail, a goddess who has a necklace of human heads stained with blood and so on and so forth. Wow! So much Sprituality!

And hey maybe you can get a nice cup of milk, run over to the stone lingam and lovingly rub the milk on the stone dick just like all those Hindu priests do and sing "ejaculate!, ejaculate! ejaculate!" because that's what it represents - Siva cumming inside a kovil - in all his glory mind you. And then, just like your little pedophile Hindu priests you can lick up all that Siva Cum and down it all with a nice cup of cow piss. I bet your mouth is watering now Sanjay, and looking for the nearest Hindu kovil which is also known as a bastion of prostitution, pedophilia, homosexuality, masturbation and you name it. I'm sure all those Hindu priests are busy perfoming the Kama Sutra on each whenever they feel bored.

For extra excitement you can join your homosexual hindu priests in rolling on the ground and looking like complete fuckwits with turrets syndrome, hang on hooks and go "whopee!!" and walk on fire and stick knives into your tongue and cheek and run around like a bunch of uncivilized, primitive pieces of shit.

Just like you want to piss on the Buddha's tooth, I want to piss on on God Ganesh's face and perhaps fart on Siva's face. What do you think? I'm only following your philosophy here Sanjay a.k.a The Religious Bigot! I know you're too busy shoving that lingam up into your ass and moving it in and out, but perhaps you can spare sometime when you're not bussy sucking some Hindu priest's dick to answer properly? Remember to wipe that cum off your face.
 
SATHYA SAI BABA RUBS OIL VIGOROUSLY ON MANY BOYS GENITALS AND...

http://home.no.net/anir/Sai/Oily.htm

(This is what the Hindu priests in Morquendi's quaint little town love doing to little boys as well -besides masturbating with lingams that is.)
 
Dear Ashanthi,

Why do you find the need to defend this religious bigot Morquendi? He has explicitly stated that he is not a Buddhist so it isn't "his religion."

He has rubished and degraded Buddhist practices for quite a while now, how come I didn't see you jumping in to say "hey, don't do that?"

Please stop being so hypocritical, it's ugly.

And let me get this straight: you only care when only Hindu Tamils are being attacked and don't give a shit if any other religious group are being targeted?

Look how he reacted when Hindu priests were spoken about in the same derogatory manner in which he refers to Buddhist monks. He had a heart attack and shit his pants. He needs to pull his head out of his ass and you need to stop trying to stop defending a complete religious bigot like Sanjay Senanayake.

Call a spade a spade. Otherwsie I'm not going to listen to your preaching. Preach both ways or don't preach at all. It's simple really.

Sanjay Senanayake is a fucking religious bigot who is completely anti-Buddhist.

What goes around comes around.
 
I don't have issues with Buddhism. I have issues with the perverted Sri Lankan version of Buddhism, which i consider to be far far away from the real thing.

Go ahead, say I know nothing about Buddhism. I know very little, but the truth is that I probably know significantly more than either of you.

Me being critical of what's wrong with my religion in my country is called being self-critical, something I believe everyone should be. At least a little.

Trashing other people's religions and cultures when you have no idea about them is bigotry. That's you: astrocyte and dextr.
 
Dear Ashanthi,

Thanks for the verbal diarrhoea. The only reason you're standing up for Sanjay Senanayakeis not because he is a "gentleman" - a gentleman he is most certainly NOT because gentlemen don't swear their head off and degrade other religious traditions and practices in the manner in which this cock-sucking asshole does, but because you perceive him to be a supporter of Tamil nationalism. So get of your fucking high horse and grow a spine and point out what is wrong all the time, not just when it conveniently suits you and your agenda. If you want to speak up for a religious bigot, you're free to do so but don't expect me to support you.

I don't give a flying fuck about your flirting with Sanjay and frankly I don't want to hear it.

Now listen up again - Sanjay Senanayake has explicitly stated THAT HE IS NOT BUDDHIST.

So what the fuck is this "his religion" business? Do you have trouble understanding simple English or are you really a dumb shit? Are you an anti-Buddhist as well? Well keep your hate mongering to yourself instead of spreding your vileness around.

Now if you would like to join Sanjay in sucking some Hindu priests dick then please be my guest. I think Sanjay loves Sai Baba and wants this Hindu God Man to rub some oil on his genitals - if he has any that is. And if you would like a big huge stone lingam or yoni to salivate over contact your nearest Sri Lankan Hindu temple. The Hindu priests there will be willing to provide you with extra large sizes if you so wish I am sure. Make sure it has been used for the Kama Sutra practices so followed in these temples, because you don't want all those ugly stains spoiling the shine of The Genitalia.

Keep supporting your religious bigot of a friend, Ashanthi.
 
It's truly sad. Ashanthi, I've been following your points all the time - from the start where you were so anti-Sinhala to the point where you seem to have matured beyond that point, to understand the bigger picture and see the truth in inclusion and reconciliation.

Clearly, the morons Dextr and Astrocyte have managed to pull you off that higher level you got to with their childish antics. Please don't demean yourself by dropping to their level. Dextr is obviously a misguided child with serious inferiority complex issues - why do you give him more than his due by even answering his nonsense?

My best wishes to Yaaro - you have maintained a clear head and tried to get more information on the topic at hand, despite the idiots at play.
Also, Dextr has got it wrong regarding the monks - which is understandable, he probably didn't fit in at his college of learning nor has he probably even been to an actual place of worship. The Vanawasi monks are a thriving community today and this is witnessed by the large number of meditation centers (Ashrama) established in Sri Lanka. They practice buddhism - in a manner that perhaps Sanjay (Morquendi) would be impressed to see - and see no reason to further petty causes like nationalism. Much in line with the great teacher taught.

Dextr, astrocyte: you represent all that is wrong with buddhists in/from Sri Lanka. As a buddhist, I am ashamed of you two.

Dextr - I'm sure you were kicked out of Ananda, but that is immaterial - no one there even remembers you - it's amazing what greener pastures and dollars can do for a little ego like yours. Years of being nothing at a major school of learning must have taken toll on your frail ego. Please consult help - and take of the reference to the place of learning. Your association with it tarnishes what is already a fragile reputation.

astrocyte - so much hate my friend? What is your agenda? Please don't tell me that it is to further the cause of buddhism or the sinhala people. You seem to do an excellent job of doing the opposite.

the sinhala people are a proud race, irrespective of their religion. Through centuries, nay, millenia of conflict and cooperation with our Dravidian neighbours we are greater than ever before - but if only as part of a global culture.

Perhaps it is difficult for you two to understand this, what with your blind madness that has you roaring around like madmen.

I suggest Panadol and some sleep. But for Dextr, I think there is no hope.
 
I know I am very late in the day, but I could not resist the temptation of commenting here. I notice that very few of the commentators here seem to have any idea at all of civility in public discourse. Arguments drip venom - and are often simply assertions of racist sentiment presented as fact; abusive epithets are hurled around like the arrows of Arjuna. A person's sexuality is their own business and not a matter of public debate.
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